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In the advanced chemistry textbook we are using,
Chemistry, 7th edition, Zumdahl and Zumdahl, the
electric dipole moment is defined to point from
the positive charge center toward the negative
charge center. (page 335) Can you tell me why
this would be the definition, since they also
state that the dipole moment will align with the
electric field. (page 336) It is well-known that
the electric field vector between a pair of metal
plates points from the positive plate toward the
negative plate. And in physics classes, I always
learned that the electric dipole points from
negative toward the positive.
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Question Date: 2011-01-24 | | Answer 1:
Your question raises a very subtle point about
the way the to define the direction of electric
fields in dipoles. You are correct that the
electric field vector between the plates of a
capacitor points from the positive plate to the
negative plate, and I believe you are asking if
this is different for the dipole moment in polar
molecules. Before reading below, keep in mind
that the direction of an electric field vector is
purely convention, and the field vectors always
point "out" of positive charges and "into"
negative charges (I believe Ben Franklin defined
this convention because he initially thought
charge carriers were positive). For a
capacitor, most calculations deal with internal
fields (i.e. between the plates) and your
capacitor fields observations is drawn from this
perspective. However think about the field lines
that would be drawn outside of the two capacitor
plates. Viewing the plates externally (i..e.
ignoring the field between the plates), a field
vector would be drawn leaving the positive plate
and another vector would be drawn entering the
negative plate, and this field would be opposite
in direction to the internal field drawn between
the two plates. Next, consider what is
important in molecular systems. Since nothing
will enter the space between chemically bound
atoms (i.e. consider a simple dipolar 2 atom
molecule, such as HF), we are not so concerned
with the internal field that develops within the
dipole. What is most important is the external
field (since this is the field that actually acts
on surrounding particles/molecules/surfaces/etc.).
Therefore, the conventional dipole moment that is
drawn for molecules actually corresponds to the
external field direction (however an internal
field of opposite direction is also present and
can be drawn analogous to the space in between
capacitor plates). Thanks for the great
question, and have a great day! | | Answer 2:
Wikipedia has a good answer for you: [Bond
dipole moment] is a vector, parallel to the bond
axis, pointing from minus to plus, as is
conventional[1] for electric dipole moment
vectors. (Some chemists draw the vector the other
way around, pointing from plus to minus, but only
in situations where the direction doesn't
matter.)[1] Your textbook says the dipole
moment is 'often represented' by an arrow pointing
from + to -, so you could point out that it
is More Often represented by an arrow pointing in
the other direction! I think I learned that
electricity was originally visualized as a flow of
positive charges, which made for confusion when it
was discovered that the moving charges are
actually negative. This is a good lesson,
too, for students to learn to read
critically.Errors in written info are such a pain
to one who is trying to learn! Best wishes, | | Answer 3:
This must just be a typo in the textbook. Those
do happen occasionally? Good on you for paying
attention! | | Answer 4:
This is one of the cases in science where two
different fields define the same thing
differently. (Another example is that
mathematicians and physicists define theta and phi
differently in spherical coordinates). I do not
know the exact historical reason that chemists
define the electric dipole moment in the opposite
direction from physicists, but that is how it is
in many (but not all) chemistry books. When they
say that it aligns with the electric field, they
mean that it does exactly what you would expect it
to do from your physicsdefinition. It seems that
you have a good understanding of dipoles
andelectric fields, so I will not go into detail
about that. If you are reading a chemistry
book and you are not sure how they havedefined the
dipole moment, the easiest way to figure it out is
to finda molecule in the book that has a highly
electronegative atom in it(O, F, Cl) and assume
that that atom is the partial negative end ofthe
dipole. From that, you can figure out how they are
defining theirdipoles based on which way they have
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