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I have a student who claims he has seen a new
moon (i.e. he could make out the shape in the
sky, albeit very faintly). Do you think this is
possible (either during the day or the night)? My
understanding is that a new moon is positioned
between the Earth and the Sun, making it
impossible to see at night, and not in a position
to reflect light to Earth during the day.
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Question Date: 2001-11-26 | | Answer 1:
My understanding of the new moon is the same as
yours. The moon should be between the Earth and
the Sun, so you shouldn't be able to see it. My
first thought on how this *might* be possible was
that I think there is about a 5 degree difference
in the moon's orbit and the earth's orbit. So, if
the moon was at its farthest separation from the
e earth's orbital plane, could it be
possible to see any reflected light? I think that
5 degrees, however, would only come out to be
equivalent to a change in the moon's relative
position by a half day or less, so I don't think
that would do it. My guess as to what your
student saw was the moon just before or after the
new moon, where there is some reflected light, and
he saw the "Earthshine." If he does believe he
saw the new moon, it's probably worth further
investigation with folks who know more about
astronomy. Good luck! | | Answer 2:
I have also seen a new moon as a whole
disk. There is a very thin crescent
sliver facing the sun, but the rest of the moon
also shines faintly, even though it is night
there. With binoculars you can even see features on
the night side of the moon! The light comes from
Earthshine, which is strongest during a new moon,
because then the Earth is full. You can verify
this yourself using an Earth-moon-sun
diagram:
The Earth's phase as seen from the moon will be
the opposite of the moon's phase as seen from the
Earth. Seeing the moon lit up by a full Earth is
tricky, though, since the moon will be between the
Earth and the sun (as you said). Look in the
twilight right after sunset of just before
sunrise, and hope the brightness of the sky does
not wash out the night side of the moon. | | Answer 3:
Well, to be wrong once every 45 years is not so bad
after all. But, even though the new moon is
not directly illuminated by the sun, there is some
light that is reflected off Earth and this very
faint light can actually weakly illuminate the
moon. It is faint and generally hard to see but
because the albedo of earth is relatively high
(ice and water) the earthshine can light up the
moon. This is aided by the fact that 80%of the
lunar surface is covered by a high albedo rock
called anorthosite.
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On a lunar calendar, on the first day of the
month, you can (by definition really) see a very
thin crescent moon right around sunset. During the
day, the waning crescent would get thinner and
thinner as the Moon gets "closer" to the Sun until
the time when the Moon and Sun are as close in the
sky that they will be: new moon. Then the Moon
starts moving ahead of the Sun and you start
getting a waxing crescent which you can easily see
once the Sun goes down. I've noticed that you can
also see what looks like a dim outline of the rest
of the moon. I think this comes from light that
has been reflected multiple times, assuming it's
not just an optical illusion.
Presumably, if
things were just right and the new moon occurred
at around noon local time, you could have gotten
up early that day and seen the last bit of waning
crescent too. The local time at which new moon
occurs would, of course, would depend on where on
the Earth you are when the Moon and Sun cross
paths. So the thickness of the crescent you can
see at sunset will change on a month to month
basis since the time it takes the Moon to complete
a cycle is not an even number of days.
Sorry
for rambling on. Anyway, I haven't really tried to
look for a "new" moon during the day. I guess if
you knew exactly where the moon was and could
block out the sun you might be able to see
something. It would probably be very difficult. It
is, of course, quite possible to see the moon
in other phases during the day. Maybe you
should have everyone in your class figure out when
the moon rises and sets each day for a month and
go look for it every day (during times when they
aren't supposed to be asleep!) | | Answer 5:
Actually, it is definitely possible to see the
'new' moon, it is illuminated dimly from our
perspective by earth shine -- i.e.light reflected
from the earth (predominately clouds -- but also
blue light from the oceans and red light from the
landmasses). I have seen it dimly as well. Click Here to return to the search form.
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