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If an Producer is an organism that makes its own
food. And a Herbivore is a plant eating animal
what is something like a venus fly-trap be?
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Question Date: 2011-10-13 | | Answer 1:
Good question. All living things need energy.
They also need matter as the building blocks for
making all the molecules that living things are
made of. We call these building blocks nutrients.
They include nitrogen (used to make protein),
phosphorus (used in cell membranes), and many
others. Venus fly traps, pitcher plants,
and sundews all consume insects, but thats not how
they get their energy. They still get their
energy from the sun and transform it into food
(such as sugars) using photosynthesis. They use
the dead insects for their nutrients. We find the
carnivorous plants in environments where there are
very low levels of nutrients in the soil.
One nutrient that they dont need to get from
insects is carbon. All living things need carbon,
but plants get it from carbon dioxide
(CO2) in the air. They absorb the
CO2 through holes in their leaves
called stomata. Nutrients get recycled. So
a Venus fly trap takes in CO2 from the
air. It may turn it into sugar, using water from
its roots and energy from the sun. It may use
that sugar itself for energy, releasing the water
and CO2 out its leaves. Or maybe it
puts a bunch of sugar molecules together to make a
starch in its leaves. A caterpillar may eat the
leaf and break down the sugar to get energy,
releasing the water and breathing out the
CO2. Or it may transform the sugar to
make fat. You can probably think of other
journeys for a carbon atom to take. The atoms
themselves never get created or destroyed (except
in nuclear fission and fusion, but thats another
story). Energy gets lost every time that it
is converted from one form to another, thats why
ecosystems need to get a certain amount of light
in order to survive. So, to (finally) get
back to your question, when were talking about
producers, primary consumers (herbivores),
secondary consumers (carnivores), etc., we like to
pretend that the categories are very neat. In
fact they can be complicated. When people eat
apples, theyre primary consumers. But what if
there are worms in the apple? Then they are being
primary consumers and secondary consumers at the
same time. When Venus fly traps are doing
photosynthesis, theyre producers. When theyre
dissolving insects, Id say that theyre
consumers. Heres the big question that a lot
of my college students have trouble with: As you
go up each level (producer, primary consumer,
secondary consumer), how much of the energy
actually makes it to the next level? To put it
another way: If you could weigh all of the
producers in one community, then all of the
primary consumers, then all of the secondary
consumers, which would weigh more? Thanks for
asking, | | Answer 2:
That is an excellent question and is one that
also puzzled me when I was a kid! Venus fly
traps are green plants, as such they make their
own carbon-based food by photosynthesizing. Like
all green plants, Venus flytraps use their leaves
to harness energy from the sun and make their own
food; they use carbon dioxide (CO2) to
make energy-rich carbohydrates. So they are
Producers. But as you may have guessed,
the story doesn't end there? Like us, plants need
more than just carbohydrates to survive and grow.
Plants also need nitrogen, an essential element
that is a key component of amino acids, and thus
many important proteins. Most plants get their
nitrogen from soil in their habitats. But the
Venus fly trap lives in bogs and grasslands where
soils contain VERY, VERY little nitrogen. So these
plants have evolved a way to acquire the nitrogen
they need by capturing insects, killing them, and
absorbing the nitrogen contained in insect
bodies. So in addition to undergoing
photosynthesis to make carbohydrates, Venus
fly-trap leaves serve as elaborate traps that
capture insects, secrete digestive enzymes that
break down their prey, and absorb this "bug juice"
into their tissues. These carnivorous traps are a
very unique and interesting adaptation that allows
these plants to survive and prosper in their
harsh, nitrogen-poor environment! To make a long
story short, Venus fly traps are Producers that
engage in carnivory to acquire nitrogen. Isn't
that cool? | | Answer 3:
Good question! You just demonstrated
that trophic levels (that's the general term for
producers, herbivores, carnivores, etc. is) are
not absolutes. That said, most of the
carbon that a Venus fly trap gets is fixed through
photosynthesis as with most any other plant, so
it's mainly a producer. The carnivorous aspect of
its ecology is mainly to get things that it can't
get through photosynthesis, such as nitrogen and
phosphorous - the things in fertilizer, in other
words. | | Answer 4:
A Venus Fly trap DOES make its own food through
photosynthesis. It IS a producer. However, it
tends to grow on very wet soils that are very poor
in nitrogen, an important element in the processes
of life. Without nitrogen, the plant will slowly
fail. The solution to being able to survive in
these soils is to trap animals, which are rich in
nitrogen. This it does with its "trap" operated by
different water pressures in the cells of the
plant. We therefore refer to it as a Carnivorous
plant. It is first & foremost a producer, but
because it traps and digests insects, we
secondarily (because this is a specific
adaptation) can term it a carnivore. This is
also true of Sundews (Drosera), Butterworts
(Pinguicula) and pitcher plants (Nepenthes,
Sarracenia, Darlingtonia, etc. ) | | Answer 5:
A venus flytrap is both a producer and a
carnivore. Despite their carnivorous ability to
eat insects and arachnids, venus flytraps are
still plants which means that they can still grow
using photosynthesis, a process in which they take
energy from sunlight and nutrients from air and
soil. Then they use the food they trap to
supplement the nutrients in their "diet." If
you want to know more, Professor Owens from
Cornell University wrote a very informative answer
to a similar question here: click
here | | Answer 6:
You might call a venus flytrap a 'mixotroph'.
Autotrophs make their own food (like most plants);
heterotrophs get food from elsewhere (like
animals, which eat other organisms), and
mixotrophs can do both. There are actually a
variety of creatures that are mixotrophs, in
particular among the protists. Some
dinoflagellates, for example, can be mixotrophic.
They are able to do photosynthesis, but they also
can gobble up small cells. (Dinoflagellates are
single-celled organisms that live in the ocean.
Some of them can fluoresce -- if you've ever
splashed around at night in the ocean and seen
'sparks' it's probably dinoflagellates.) Click Here to return to the search form.
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