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Why do the sun and moon look bigger when seen on
the horizon than they do when high in the sky?
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Question Date: 2000-01-21 | | Answer 1:
Well, right up front I'll say that I don't really
know for sure. However, I've heard two
explanations for this phenomenon, both of which
seem plausible. Explanation 1: it's just an
optical illusion. When the sun and moon are right
on the horizon, they seem to be bigger because
they're next to houses, trees, etc., whose
smallness next to the sun/moon magnifies the
latter. When the sun or moon are overhead, they
are surrounded by empty space, which appears to
diminish their size. This hypothesis could be
easily tested by holding a ruler at arms' length
and measuring the diameter of the sun/moon at
several points in its transit across the sky.
You'd have to be careful that the distance between
your eye and ruler remained constant among
measurements. Of course, with the sun,n you'd
want to avoid as much as possible looking right at
it! Explanation 2: the apparent size of the
sun and moon is determined by the distance their
light has to travel through the atmosphere. Under
this hypothesis, the atmosphere has a lensing
effect which will increasingly magnify images with
longer passages through the atmosphere. Light
arriving from directly overhead has a shorter path
than light arriving from an oblique direction,
hence the apparent decline in size as the sun and
moon move higher in the sky. Sorry I can't give a
more definitive answer. If you do the
measurements, let me know how your experiment
turns out!
| | Answer 2:
I've been told that although the moon and the sun
look bigger when they are low on the horizon
versus up high in the sky, really it is all in our
minds. When the sun and moon are just rising, they
appear to be close to the "ground" where there is
a lot of things to compare their size with, for
example, mountains, trees, etc.--things that we
know the size of. When the sun and moon are way up
in the sky there is nothing else around to compare
the size with, other than the vast huge-looking
sky. So it is really just a relative thing. Our
brain interprets the size of other objects by
comparing them to the things around them that we
know the size of. Now, the moon is really huge all
the time, right? So when it is just rising or
setting and it's low on the horizon seemingly next
to a mountain, which we think of as huge, then our
brain tells us that the moon is huge. When there
is nothing to compare the moon to, when it is way
up in the sky, other than the huge sky, our brain
tells us that the moon is small relative to the
sky. Really, it's size has not changed at
all.
Try tricking your brain by looking at
a rising moon or sun upside down. Look at the moon
or sun just as it rises up above the horizon, then
turn your back to the moon or sun, stand with your
legs spread apart a little, then bend over and
look at the moon or sun from between your legs
while your head is upside down. This tricks your
brain and makes it re-evaluate what is up and what
is down, or what is the sky and what is the
ground.(quite Dr. Seuss-like, no?) Now, ask
yourself if the moon or sun look any bigger than
they do when they are high up in the sky. What do
you think?
| | Answer 3:
It's an optical illusion due to the way the brain
interprets an image and estimates size. The moon
subtends approximately 29.5 arcminutes in the sky.
This is about the width of your little finger held
at arm's length. Try this experiment: when you see
the moon on the horizon, compare it's angular size
to your little finger. Later when the moon is
high, do the same comparison. You should find that
the angular size of the moon has not changed at
all.
I have seen reports that the reason
the moon appears larger on the horizon due to
atmospheric refraction. This is completely false;
atmospheric refraction is a very small effect, and
any change in angular size would have a factor of
theta_(moon)=(29.5')*(1 degree/60 arcmin)*(pi/180)
= 0.0086, which is small enough to neglect.
| | Answer 4:
Lloyd and James Kaufman, a father and son team,
recently published an article in the Proceedings
of the National Academy of Sciences, answering
this very question. The short answer is, simply,
the horizon moon is perceived as larger because of
an optical illusion. The difference is not, in
fact, due to any effect of the atmosphere, as it
is commonly believed.
Read the full
article below for more
information!
_____________________________________________________
Proceedings
of the National Academy of Sciences: Vol. 97,
Issue 1, 500-505, January 4,
2000
Psychology-BS Explaining the moon
illusion
Lloyd Kaufman*, and James H.
Kaufman
Psychology Department, Long
Island University, C.W. Post Campus, 720 Northern
Boulevard, Brookville, NY 11548-1309; and IBM
Research Division, Almaden Research Center, 350
Harry Road, San Jose, CA 95120
Communicated by Julian Hochberg, Columbia
University, New York, NY, October 25, 1999
(received for review August 23, 1999)
Abstract
An old explanation of the moon
illusion holds that various cues place the horizon
moon at an effectively greater distance than the
elevated moon. Although both moons have the same
angular size, the horizon moon must be perceived
as larger. More recent explanations hold that
differences in accommodation or other factors
cause the elevated moon to appear smaller. As a
result of this illusory difference in size, the
elevated moon appears to be more distant than the
horizon moon. These two explanations, both based
on the geometry of stereopsis, lead to two
diametrically opposed hypotheses. That is, a depth
interval at a long distance is associated with a
smaller binocular disparity, whereas an equal
depth interval at a smaller distance is associated
with a larger disparity. We conducted experiments
involving artificial moons and confirmed the
hypothesis that the horizon moon is at a greater
perceptual distance. Moreover, when a moon of
constant angular size was moved closer it was also
perceived as growing smaller, which is consistent
with the older explanation.
| | Answer 5:
Here's something to try: When the moon is almost
full again go outside and measure its size when it
is rising, at around sunset. Maybe compare it to
the size of your thumb when your hand is
outstretched or hold a ruler between both
outstretched hands. Go outside a few hours
later and measure again. Has the moon really
changed size? If not, why do you think the moon
looks different when closer to the horizon?
| | Answer 6:
There are perhaps several reasons: the first is
purely related to the psychology of perception...
when the moon is low, one has something to compare
its size with (i.e., objects on the horizon) and
so it appears large. when high in the sky, this is
not possible. A second explanation has to do
with the length of the path light follows when an
object is low in the sky... the path length thru
the atmosphere is greater when an object is on the
horizon. One effect this has, is to scatter blue
light more than red light (which has longer wave
length)... hence more of the red light gets thru"
and we see the object as being somewhat redder
(like the giant RED RUBBER BALL SUN) . There may
be some refraction effects as well that distort
the image of the moon or soon related to the
greater path length as well.recall that the index
of refraction of the atmosphere depends on its
density and that changes in the index of
refraction will bend light to different extent.
| | Answer 7:
There are two processes involved here -- one
psychological, and one that is physical. The moon
as seen from the earth is 1/2 degree wide when at
zenith. However, there are rarely any objects
close to the moon from which its relative size can
be guessed. When it is closer to the horizon, it
appears close to far away objects of known size,
and this allows a scale to be seen for the moons
size. (The effect seems to depend on having a
distant horizon -- the moon does not appear large
in mountain valleys, presumably because the
horizon is much closer. Physically, the
refraction of the earth's atmosphere causes the
moon to appear flattened as it grazes the horizon,
this often makes the moon appear wider (when in
fact its image is just shorter). The refraction
effect was first measured by Bode who noticed that
stars seemed to cross the horizon later than they
should -- this is due to the refraction -- the
star is actually below the horizon but its image
remains above for a brief time. There is a
third effect -- the moon close to the horizon is
much dimmer and the light is shifted to redder
colors-- making it easier to look at directly
without glare. On warm summer days, the moon can
appear as a yellow or even orange flattened ball
on the horizon. Recently, (Last Dec 22, 1999)
the moon at full was larger (by several %) than at
any time since 1866-- it did appear very bright --
but there was nothing to compare it to, high in
the sky. On the horizon it did appear quite large.
(At least to me...) | | Answer 8:
The sun and moon appear bigger on the horizon than
high in the sky because there are other objects on
the horizon to compare with the sizes of the moon
and the sun. Next to a palm tree or building, the
moon and sun will appear bigger. In actuality,
the sizes of the moon and sun do not change. It is
an optical illusion that the sun and the moon
appear bigger at the horizon. If you measure the
size of the moon with your thumbnail (it is not a
good idea to look directly at the sun) by holding
your arm straight out in front of you when the
moon is at the horizon and high in the sky, you
will find out that the moon is the same size at
both positions.
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