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Why is that most of mathematicians are also good
philosophers? Is Philosophy the mother of all
sciences or is it mathematics? |
Question Date: 2018-03-09 | | Answer 1:
At a high enough level, good scientists,
mathematicians, and philosophers have many common
traits. One trait is that these people are good
at logical and critical thinking. They are
very capable of following a train of thought,
going through steps and avoiding logical flaws.
Good scientists, mathematicians and
philosophers are also seekers of truth, so
they will not allow themselves to stray from the
path to the truth. In terms of historical records,
Western philosophy as we understand it started in
the 6th century (600 years) B.C., but Indian
philosophy can be traced back to 10th century
(1000 years) B.C. There has been evidence that
complex mathematics was used as early as 3000 B.C.
HOWEVER, there is a crucial caveat here that
prevents us from concluding that math came before
philosophy - historical records can be incomplete
and biased. The truth is that we don't know, but I
suspect that one cannot exist without the
other, so it is likely that they came together
from the needs of our ancestors to keep records
and use reasoning to solve problems. If we
were to strictly limit "philosophy" and
"mathematics" to certain definitions, we may be
able to pinpoint the dates better, but those
definitions are not very likely to be complete or
sufficient.
Hope this helps!
| | Answer 2:
Most people use "science" to refer only to the
natural sciences; in this context, neither
philosophy nor mathematics is a science. However
mathematics is a systematic and formulated
knowledge. The idea behind science is that
you observe reality and formulate ideas to explain
it, and then test those ideas with more
observations or experiments. Mathematics does not
require you to observe reality, but for a
mathematical statement to be accepted as a
theorem, its conclusion must be known to always be
true whenever its hypotheses are satisfied. In
mathematics, however, the ultimate arbiter of
correctness is proof rather than empirical
evidence. On the other hand, science could make
few advances without mathematics.
The requirement that you make observations in
science is a philosophy, but many other
philosophies do not require that you make
observations, and so are not scientific. The
usefulness of science is that you can know what
reality consists of for a fact by applying it, but
science also has the disadvantage that you can
only use it to answer questions about things that
you can observe; it is useless toward things that
you can't.
During the Enlightenment period (late 1600s
through early 1800s), educated men and women were
exploring new fields of knowledge and considering
many new ideas. Together, these ideas were called
"philosophy", and many philosophers dabbled in
multiple fields. Among these fields were science,
mathematics, and politics, but back then they were
lumped together.
As the amount of knowledge in each of these
fields grew, it became such that it was no longer
possible to learn it all in a single human's
lifetime, forcing "philosophers" to specialize.
This is when what we now know as modern science,
mathematics, and what today is called philosophy
became separate disciplines. Today's
mathematicians are usually not also philosophers,
and today's philosophers are even more rarely also
mathematicians. Modern scientists treat
mathematics as a tool: we use it, and will develop
it if the branch of math we need for something
doesn't exist, but are content to use existing
math if we can.
| | Answer 3:
This is a really interesting question because
it really makes us think about the difference
between math and philosophy. Back in early
civilizations, most of the population didn’t worry
about education. They were much too busy just
trying to work enough to survive. The only people
who had time to receive an education were the
richest portion of the population. Those who
received an education might begin to question how
the world works. Why does an apple fall when I
drop it? How far away are the stars? Why do I
think? What makes me myself? At the time,
there was no difference between science, math, and
philosophy—the great thinkers were just that,
thinkers.
It was these thinkers that slowly began to
develop different schools of thought. Those that
cared about our movement through space became
physicists, those who questioned how the
body worked became biologists, and those
who questioned thought and existence itself became
philosophers. This distinction was only
possible because we learned enough about a
particular type of information because before
that, everything was just philosophy. For that
reason, it is hard to say whether it is
philosophy or math that is the mother to all
sciences because for a long time, they were the
same thing. Thank you for your question!
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